为什么每个人都应关注印度尼西亚!

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按人口计算,印尼是世界第四大国家,预计在几十年内将成为世界第四大经济体。即将卸任的印尼总统佐科-维多多(Joko Widodo)在其执政的十年间一直寻求重塑印尼经济,并在很大程度上做到了这一点。但是,印尼及其 2.8 亿公民要想跨越最大的障碍--从发展中国家变为发达国家,还面临着重大挑战。

为什么每个人都应关注印度尼西亚!

为什么每个人都应关注印度尼西亚!

Videostart
13小时前
Per capita income is just a number/money. I don't think it's the money that a person has. The wisest thing is how much you use the facilities in your country. Is your life comfortable. Happy. Can you eat? Primary, secondary, upper school. It's free.. Just money.

人均收入只是一个数字/金钱。我不认为这就是一个人拥有的钱。最明智的做法是你使用了多少本国的设施。你的生活是否舒适。快乐。能吃饱饭吗?小学、中学、高中 免费 只是钱。


Koreacur
10小时前
Do not do business with government. The payment is difficult. You may end up in huge debt

不要与政府做生意,付款很困难,您可能会背负巨额债务!


Madpett
7小时前
As an Indonesian, I say that what you say is absolutely correct.Never conduct business relations with the government or government business entities.

作为一名印尼人,我认为您说的完全正确。永远不要与政府或政府商业实体建立商业关系。


Bipulnarzary
18小时前
At least India's economy is dominated by Indians themselves. Meanwhile Indonesia's economy is dominated by non-natives & the fact that Indonesia's politicians won't listen to their people, only cares about personal gain even if it sells our country's national interests to foreigners..

至少印度的经济是由印度人自己主导的。与此同时,印尼的经济是由非本地人主导的,而且印尼的政治家们不会倾听他们人民的心声,只关心个人利益,甚至不惜将我们国家的国家利益出卖给外国人。


look at "Whoosh" HSR between Jakarta-Bandung city built by China, it was built without feasibility study, even the plan was criticized back in 2016 by former reformer of KAI (Indonesia Railways) Mr. Ignatius Jonan. Now it is burdening our country's budget, even state-owned company which handled the HSR project such as Wijaya Karya (WIKA) is under financial problems. Clearly has something to do with corruption so much that it was built without feasibility study.

看看由中国修建的雅加达-万隆之间的 "嗖嗖(外号)"高铁,它是在没有进行可行性研究的情况下修建的,甚至该计划早在2016年就受到了KAI(印尼铁路公司)前改革者伊格内修斯-乔南(Ignatius Jonan)先生的批评。这显然与腐败有关,以至于在没有进行可行性研究的情况下就建造了高铁。


Nightingale
7小时前(修改过)
India can make its own nuke & space program without being too dependant to foreign powers. Indonesia simply can't, it's too dependent either to China or USA, even its fast train project (built & funded by China & without proper feasibility study before) is now putting Indonesia under serious debt with concession of 80 years. India is self sufficient enough and have indigenous automotive brands like Tata, Royal Enfield, TVS, Bajaj.. Indonesia doesn't have any. Big difference.

印度可以制定自己的核武器和太空计划,而不必过于依赖外国势力。印尼根本无法做到这一点,它过于依赖中国或美国,甚至其快速列车项目(由中国建造和资助,之前未进行适当的可行性研究)也让印尼背上了长达 80 年的沉重债务。印度已经自给自足,拥有塔塔(Tata)、皇家恩菲尔德(Royal Enfield)、TVS、巴哈(Bajaj)等本土汽车品牌。而印尼却没有。差别太大了。


YSKWatch
1天前
I've, heard for decades that Indonesia will be the next tiger (or whatever), but nothing happened.

几十年来,我一直听说印尼将成为下一个老虎(或其他什么),但什么也没发生。


Crescentmono
12小时前
Corruption Watch in Indonesia is only the tip of iceberg. The submerged part of the leaders corruption would not ever be investigated. Even the MBZ road corruption only shift to contractor and never the government.

印度尼西亚的腐败观察只是冰山一角。被淹没的部分领导人的腐败行为永远不会被调查。即使是 MBZ 公路的腐败,也只是转移到承包商身上,而从未转移到政府身上。


Xvdzwki
1天前
IMO,we dont need to be global superpower,just be prosperous is enough,and reallisticly we cant compete/catch with usa and china economy just in century,but if becoming superpower in region(south east asia)it can be truee️

在我看来,我们不需要成为全球超级大国,只要繁荣就足够了,事实上,我们无法在一个世纪内与美国和中国的经济竞争/追赶,但如果成为地区(东南亚)超级大国,那就可以成为现实。


Sarabeth
16小时前
Indonesia makes awesome movies and TV series, especially in the horror and martial arts genre. The scripts are well written, original, and sophisticated. The cinematography is excellent and the acting is good too. If they can rid their country of corruption, the sky's the limit.

印尼制作的电影和电视剧非常棒,尤其是恐怖和武侠类型的电影和电视剧。剧本创作精良、新颖、精致。电影摄影和演技也非常出色。如果他们能肃清本国的腐败现象,那么他们的发展前景将不可限量。


Diraputrya
17小时前
Corruption is everywhere, even in developed countries.

腐败无处不在,即使在发达国家也是如此。


Nightingale
7小时前
Minister of Tech & Communication of Indonesia recently under heat because Indonesia's national database center was hacked by amateur hacker, despite spending enormous budget. Syahrul Yasin Limpo (minister of Agriculture) has recently been caught of corruption & only sentenced with 12 years in prison (can be even further reduced). Sambo is not sentenced to death despite of his murder case by misusing his authority as a police higher up & even he is linked to online gambling practice in Indonesia. Those are just small examples, just tips of the bigger iceberg.

印尼科技与通讯部部长最近受到热议,因为印尼的国家数据库中心被业余黑客入侵,尽管花费了巨额预算。农业部长林波最近因贪污被抓,仅被判处 12 年监禁(可进一步减刑)。三宝(Sambo)因滥用职权谋杀了一名警察,但却没有被判处死刑,甚至他还与印尼的网上赌博活动有关。这些只是小例子,只是冰山一角。


Besteverther
1天前
Indonesia, India, Vietnam are going to play a major role in Geopolitics in the coming future.All 3 nations are independent, and fast growing

印度尼西亚、印度和越南将在未来的地缘政治中扮演重要角色。这三个国家都是独立国家,发展迅速。


SavageDragon
1天前
as long as they don't get stuck in the middle income trap.

只要它们不陷入中等收入陷阱。


Asterinycht
1天前(修改过)
or traped in religius fasicist movement.. well vietnam wont tho.. india and indonesia is very prone to that.

或者陷入宗教法西斯主义运动…越南不会的…印度和印度尼西亚很容易出现这种情况。


Asterinycht
1天前
idk about india, but indonesia will go balkanize if that happen.

我不知道印度的情况,但如果发生这种情况,印度尼西亚就会巴尔干化。


Mcbchannel
1天前
yes this is what i’m afraid of as indonesian. indonesia has more than 700 ethnics group with the geographical location as a transcontinental country makes it so prone of balkanized. i hope we’re still united forever

是的,这就是我作为印尼人害怕的。印度尼西亚有700多个民族,其地理位置是一个横贯大陆的国家,因此很容易陷入巴尔干化。我希望我们永远在一起。


Ksrawat
22小时前
Indonesia is about to implement sharia law … wait for all those investment

印尼即将实施伊斯兰教法,等着那些投资吧!


Mcbchannel
21小时前
where dl you find that information? indonesia never planned to apply sharia law. the only place that applied sharia law in indonesia just in the aceh special province since the independent. this also happen with the bali province that applied hindu law there. stop talking nonsense dude

你从哪里找到这些信息的?印尼从未计划实施伊斯兰教法。印尼独立以来唯一实行伊斯兰教法的地方是亚齐特别省。这也发生在巴厘岛,在那里实行印度教法律。别胡说八道了,伙计!


RIZFERD
1天前
India and Indonesia allied and merged to form a new superpower

印度和印尼结盟,合并成一个新的超级大国!


Suomitro
23小时前
As an Indonesian, our enemy is not foreigners. Our enemy is inefficient management government

作为印尼人,我们的敌人不是外国人,我们的敌人是管理效率低下的政府!


Happymelon
1天前
EU relations with Malaysia, Indonesia at risk One dissenting panelist also offered greater support to Malaysia's appeal that the EU policy is protectionist, since it is accused of singling out palm oil while overlooking the environmental impact of biofuels produced within Europe, such as rapeseed.

欧盟与马来西亚、印度尼西亚的关系面临风险。一位持反对意见的专家也对马来西亚的呼吁给予了更大的支持,即欧盟的政策是保护主义的,因为它被指责只针对棕榈油,而忽视了欧洲生产的生物燃料(如油菜籽)对环境的影响。


Sneezingwizar
1天前
EU were being hypocrites. They don't want the palm oil but they want the raw nickel ores.

欧盟是伪君子。他们不想要棕榈油,却想要镍矿石原料。


Happymelon
14小时前
AUG 03, 2023 Indonesia defends its curbs on nickel ore exports amid EU claim of breach in international trade .Indonesia has stepped up its defence of its nickel ore export curbs the European Union has protested against, asserting its right to enhance value addition, boost its economy, and create job opportunities by climbing the value chain.

2023 年 8 月 3 日 印尼为其限制镍矿石出口进行辩护,欧盟声称印尼违反了国际贸易...印尼加强了对欧盟抗议的镍矿石出口限制的辩护,声称印尼有权通过提升价值链来提高附加值、促进经济发展和创造就业机会。


Indonesia claims it is doing what is necessary to develop its electric vehicle (EV) ecosystem, while the EU claims the nation rich in natural resources has breached rules by restricting international trade.South-east Asia’s largest economy, which was the world’s top exporter of nickel ore, introduced the ban on Jan 1, 2020.

印尼声称自己正在采取必要措施发展电动汽车(EV)生态系统,而欧盟则声称这个自然资源丰富的国家违反了限制国际贸易的规定。印尼是东南亚最大的经济体,也是世界上最大的镍矿石出口国。


DiniKusuma
23小时前(修改过)
many obstacles are indeed facing Indonesia, but fortunately majority of the country still has optimism to overcome the problems ... only a few actually that stuck in pessimism, which 'ironically' as Indonesians, they basically don't have better solution to face the future of Indonesia - mainly just complaining, thinking negatively, or spreading toxic message, etc

印尼确实面临着许多障碍,但幸运的是,大多数印尼人仍然抱有克服困难的乐观精神...... 实际上,只有少数人还沉浸在悲观情绪中,"讽刺的是"作为印尼人,他们基本上没有更好的办法来面对印尼的未来--主要是抱怨、消极思考或传播有毒信息等。


HessionDrasha
1天前
If Indonesia wants integration of ASEAN to continue into the future. It might have to give greater autonomy to individual islands, like Borneo and sumatra. It's 40% of ASEANS population, other countries in the region will be intimidated by the possibillity of domination. To put this in context, Germany is only 20% of the EU's population, so the organisation is inherently more collaborative.

如果印尼希望未来继续融入东盟。它可能不得不给予个别岛屿更大的自治权,比如婆罗洲和苏门答腊岛。它占东盟人口的40%,该地区的其他国家会被可能的统治吓坏的。在此背景下,德国只占欧盟人口的20%,因此该组织本质上更具合作性。


Mcbchannel
1天前
what helps southeast asian countries like indonesia and vietnam economies skyrocketed in the past decade because of their mutual economy relationship with each other and with china. trading with asean countries and china are feels like you open a shop and you compete economically while trading with the usa and the european countries feels like you open a shop and deals with thugs trying to strip down your country geopolitical stability, stabbing you in the back, and steal your mineral resources.

印尼和越南等东南亚国家的经济在过去十年中突飞猛进,因为它们彼此之间以及与中国的经济关系。与东盟国家和中国的贸易感觉就像你开了一家商店,你在经济上竞争,而与美国和欧洲国家的贸易感觉就像你开了一家商店,和试图剥夺你国家地缘政治稳定的暴徒打交道,在背后捅你一刀,偷走你的矿产资源。


Leealex
1天前
Indonesia although has large GDP and stuff, but, remember it has large population of 280mil people. Malaysia which is almost 10x smaller in population is only about 1/3 GDP of Indonesia. You do the math.

印尼虽然拥有庞大的 GDP 和其他东西,但是,请记住它拥有 2.8 亿庞大的人口。人口几乎少 10 倍的马来西亚的 GDP 只有印尼的 1/3。你自己算算吧。


Adhiwicaksono
22小时前(修改过)
Btw, that Brazil example is good because Brazil GDP per capita is 3x higher than Indonesia and they are nowhere a GLOBAL POWER. I find it very amusing that many of you comment like it's so easy to be a GLOBAL POWER. GLOBAL power means the country has global reach, impact and money.

顺便说一下,巴西的例子很好,因为巴西的人均 GDP 是印尼的 3 倍,而他们却不是全球大国。我觉得非常有趣的是,你们中的许多人评论说,成为全球大国是如此容易。全球大国意味着国家拥有全球影响力和资金。


Right now, it's still US and China and even China is quite way off from the US still. Only two that's it. If I really have to name a third, reluctantly is Japan and they are declining also.

现在,仍然是美国和中国,甚至中国与美国仍有相当大的差距。只有两个,仅此而已。如果非要我说出第三个国家,我只能勉强说是日本,而且他们也在衰落。


AntonDev
14小时前
As Indonesian, we hope america wont cheat steal lie and manipulate us. As long as amerika is out of our life, we will thrive.

作为印尼人,我们希望美国不要欺骗、偷窃和操纵我们。只要美国远离我们的生活,我们就会茁壮成长。


Batucadax
1天前
Superpower... Yet unable to do the necessary things right like waste management, sewage, traffic jams, corruption etc

超级大国却无法做好必要的事情,如垃圾处理、污水处理、交通堵塞、腐败等。


BorisSudakov
1天前
There are a lot of big words and bright pictures about Indonesia's economic potential, but if you look calmly at the volume of Indonesian exports, in 2023 the country with the fourth largest population in the world exported goods worth $258.2 billion. And this is very little! This is slightly less than the export of the Czech Republic, where 10 million people live, and one and a half times less than in Switzerland. In terms of merchandise exports, Indonesia is not even among the top thirty countries.

关于印尼的经济潜力,有很多大话和光鲜亮丽的图片,但如果你静下心来看看印尼的出口额,2023 年,这个人口居世界第四位的国家出口的商品价值为 2582 亿美元。而这是非常少的!这个数字略低于有 1000 万人口的捷克共和国的出口额,是瑞士的 1.5 倍。就商品出口而言,印度尼西亚甚至没有跻身前三十名。


Mehimehi
1天前(修改过)
our domestic market that become dominance. We learn from 1998 crisis when we depend on export and export oriented manufacturing. When global demand plummet most factory closed. Most that survives was small and medium industries that serves local market.

我们的国内市场已成为主导。我们从 1998 年的危机中吸取了教训,当时我们依赖出口和以出口为导向的制造业。当全球需求急剧下降时,大多数工厂都关闭了。幸存下来的大多是服务于本地市场的中小型企业。


Ontowiryo
1天前(修改过)
Because Indonesia can only export raw materials such as coal and palm oil, they don't know how to manufacture finished goods and learn to be competitive. Most of the population are low skill labors and live in poverty, despite all the hype about Indonesia I don't see any real changes to the fundamental of their economy. They have been and still is a largely agrarian country that has fall out far from their regional peers such as Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam that has recently been industrializing their economies.

由于印尼只能出口煤炭和棕榈油等原材料,因此他们不知道如何生产成品,也不知道如何提高竞争力。大多数人都是低技能劳动力,生活在贫困之中,尽管对印尼进行了各种炒作,但我并没有看到他们的经济基本面有任何真正的改变。印尼过去是,现在仍然是一个以农业为主的国家,与泰国、马来西亚、越南等最近开始工业化的地区国家相比,印尼已经落后很多。
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