俄罗斯和中国正在彻底摧毁西方的愚蠢叙事 | 马修-克罗斯顿博士!

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乌克兰战争愈演愈烈,加沙的基诺西德战争仍在如火如荼地进行,而新保守主义者正在梦想着更多的战争。幸运的是,在西方以外,没有人再认真对待来自华盛顿、布鲁塞尔和柏林的言论。然而,世界从未像现在这样面临核毁灭的危险和第三次世界大战的威胁。我们如何解释如此盲目的狂妄和自杀式的愚蠢?

俄罗斯和中国正在彻底摧毁西方的愚蠢叙事 | 马修-克罗斯顿博士!

俄罗斯和中国正在彻底摧毁西方的愚蠢叙事 | 马修-克罗斯顿博士!

Agnieszka
1天前
The populations in Mariupol or other cities that had been bombed, had their water turned off by Ukraine, do not want to be part of Ukraine, and they would revolt to get back their independence rather than return to Ukraine.

马里乌波尔或其他被乌克兰轰炸过、停水的城市的居民不希望成为乌克兰的一部分,他们会通过起义来恢复独立,而不是回到乌克兰。


Johnsmith
22小时前
Not exactly correct. Young lady who works at my gym in NH is from Mariupol, her parents are still there. She is aware a US cabal enabled Azov etc. to stage a coup, and believes that Ukraine is being led by patriots. She's 21, I have no idea how this happens but it relates to how a person perceives the wealth here in the US, I think. And she demonstrates that Ukrainians generically hate Russians the way Cubans hate Americans.

不完全正确。在我位于新罕布什尔州的健身房工作的年轻女士来自马里乌波尔,她的父母仍在那里。她知道是美国阴谋让亚速等人发动了政变,并相信乌克兰是由爱国者领导的。她今年 21 岁,我不知道这是怎么发生的,但我认为这与一个人如何看待美国的财富有关。她还表明,乌克兰人普遍憎恨俄罗斯人,就像古巴人憎恨美国人一样。


TimePeace
12小时前
Western part of Ukraine, yes but not the Russian speaking eastern. That's why there's a division within the Ukraine society which USA exploited to divide by escalating a peaceful protest into a violent one. That's how the CIA and NED operate around the world leveraging on grievances and divisions for interference for regime change.

乌克兰西部是的,但东部的俄语区不是。这就是为什么乌克兰社会内部存在分裂,而美国正是利用这种分裂将和平抗议升级为暴力抗议。这就是中情局和民主基金会在世界各地利用不满和分裂进行干预以实现政权更迭的运作方式。


The Maidan protests in 2014 toppled the democratically elected Ukrainian President, aided by US senior official Victoria Nuland threatening to put Ukraine under sanction. The deposed President had to escape for his life. The US chose the new President as leaked by a taped conversation.

2014年的独立广场抗议推翻了乌克兰民选总统,美国高级官员维多利亚-努兰(Victoria Nuland)威胁要制裁乌克兰。被废黜的总统不得不逃命。美国选择了新总统,这是由一段录音对话泄露的。


Fellowcitizen
1天前
"To understand American foreign policy, one should understand the concept of COVERT REGIME CHANGE."

要理解美国的外交政策,就应该理解 “政权更迭”这一概念。


Bballen
1天前
Ukraine invaded the independent Donbas republics' Russia joined that war to protect the Russians in the Donbas. It always said it would protect Russians.

乌克兰入侵独立的顿巴斯共和国,俄罗斯加入战争以保护顿巴斯的俄罗斯人。它总是说要保护俄罗斯人。


Richardlozier
1天前
Russia has absolutely outclassed the Europeans and Americans singlehanded

俄罗斯绝对凭借一己之力打败了欧洲人和美国人!


Jossiesh
1天前
Russia has more than enough economic and military power to stand and fight against racist NATO countries. Definitely, China’s political support is important.

俄罗斯有足够的经济和军事实力来对抗种族主义的北约国家。当然,中国的政治支持也很重要。


Dinnerwith
1天前
I've heard people talk about "freedom" but no one has ever bothered to explain what exactly they mean. What "freedom" do you value so much?

我听人们谈论过 “自由”,但从来没有人费心去解释他们到底指的是什么。你如此看重什么 “自由”?


Therealarch
9小时前
That economic power comes from countries continuing to trade with Russia in defiance of sanctions. Likely the Russian leadership knew sanctions would be imposed and had concerns. Putin went to China and the assured him - we got your back.We have seen the result and the likely long term relationship that is mutually beneficial.Tire success now is due in large part to the failure of the sanctions.

这种经济实力来自于那些无视制裁继续与俄罗斯进行贸易的国家。俄罗斯领导层很可能知道将实施制裁并有所顾虑。普京去了中国,中国向他保证--我们会支持你。我们已经看到了结果,也看到了双方互惠互利的长期关系。现在的成功在很大程度上要归功于制裁的失败。


Rickv
1天前
Russia can’t withdraw from its current situation. The west including Zelensky when he was at Minsk agreement in Germany laughed at the signing because the west knew it meant nothing to gain time for Ukraine to build up their military. Ukraine people need to uprise against Zelensky and the US to stop this madness from within. That’s the best way.

俄罗斯无法摆脱目前的处境。包括泽连斯基在内的西方国家在德国出席明斯克协议签署仪式时都大笑不止,因为西方国家知道这对乌克兰来说毫无意义,只是为他们赢得了建立军队的时间。乌克兰人民需要起来反对泽连斯基和美国,从内部阻止这种疯狂行为。这是最好的办法。


Rosemarysp
1天前
The Western narrative never even tries to understand the Russian point of view, so no fair agreement can happen.

西方的说法甚至从未试图理解俄罗斯的观点,因此无法达成公平的协议。


Genebaughb
1天前
They did not invade they intervened in a genocide.

他们没有入侵,而是介入了一场种族屠杀。


Katong
1天前
The Russian-speaking regions had broken away from Ukraine long before Russia''s special military operation. Thereafter, they voted to join Russia.

早在俄罗斯发动特别军事行动之前,俄语地区就已经脱离了乌克兰。此后,他们投票决定加入俄罗斯。


TimePeace
1天前
The Minsk agreements were supposed to protect the eastern Ukrainians for Ukraine to remain as a whole. But the Ukraine army, armed and equipped by the US, is controlled by the US. And the Minsk agreements were ignored by Ukraine, drawing in the Russians.

明斯克协议本应保护东部乌克兰人,使乌克兰保持整体性。但乌克兰军队由美国武装和装备,受美国控制。而乌克兰无视明斯克协议,引来了俄罗斯人。


Kanninen
1天前
And they asked Russia for help against the genocide by Ukraine, which Ukraine had already been doing for 10 years and started a Western-sanctioned bombardment, really equivalent to Gaza, on February 17, 2022

他们向俄罗斯寻求帮助,反对乌克兰的种族灭绝,而乌克兰已经这样做了 10 年,并于 2022 年 2 月 17 日开始了西方认可的轰炸,真正相当于加沙地带的轰炸。


Arielelian
1天前
As an immigrant living in the US, I can attest that American culture is very imperialistic. For the past 3 decades, I've been trying to explain to Americans the importance of being able to see the world through the lens of other countries/cultures, as it provides an accurate perspective of oneself and the world.

作为一名生活在美国的移民,我可以证明美国文化是非常帝国主义的。在过去的 30 年里,我一直试图向美国人解释能够通过其他国家/文化的视角来看待世界的重要性,因为这可以提供一个准确的视角来看待自己和世界。


You would not believe the amount of disagreement, resistance, and "Murica" attitude I've received. Even the benign consideration that there could be other, more accurate ways of seeing the world apart from the American perspective is received with vehement denial, if not outright vitriol.

你不会相信我收到了多少不同意见、阻力和 “美国佬”的态度。哪怕是善意地认为,除了美国人的视角,还可以有其他更准确的方式来看待世界,也会遭到强烈的否认,甚至是直接的谩骂。


Imagine the level of delusion and denial about things of consequential importance! This is why the narrative is so hard to crack, because Americans have built their world around it. And they'll freak out when the narrative finally collapses. The thing I'm most worried about is the psychotic break when their narrative falls apart. Because like a drowning person, they'll start thrashing...and likely even start blaming others for their situation. Then it gets dangerous.

试想一下,对具有重大影响的事物的妄想和否认会达到何种程度!这就是为什么这种说法如此难以破解,因为美国人已经围绕它建立了自己的世界。当这种说法最终崩溃时,他们就会抓狂。我最担心的是,当他们的叙事崩溃时,他们会精神崩溃。因为就像溺水的人一样,他们会开始挣扎......甚至可能开始把自己的处境归咎于他人,然后就危险了。


Judithmackay
21小时前
This is why I see it as dangerous to break apart the narrative all in one go, if you take it apart bit by bit people will be angry but can come to terms with it, blast it wide open and there is likely to be a revolt that cannot be controlled and that would serve nobody's interests.

这就是为什么我认为一次性打破叙事是危险的,如果你一点一点地打破它,人们会愤怒,但可以接受它,如果把它炸开,很可能会出现无法控制的反抗,这不符合任何人的利益。


Grayarcana
1天前
No secure resolution of this conflict can be obtained by Russia: Russia must endure until America is a spent force in World affairs.
America has lost all moral and diplomatic credibility: what remains is military force and financial credibility.

俄罗斯无法稳妥地解决这场冲突:俄罗斯必须忍耐,直到美国在世界事务中失去作用。
美国已经失去了所有的道德和外交信誉:剩下的只有军事力量和财政信誉。


Ashfield
1天前
Even the military and financial credibility is taking a hit.

就连军事和金融信誉也受到了打击。


Grayarcana
1天前
Yes. Once financial credibility fails, the game is up. They can either throw their arms out of the pram in a military fit, or watch them rust. Few American financial commentators seem particularly alarmed. The discerning few are divided over an early demise, or a demise delayed for decades.

是的。一旦金融信誉失效,游戏就结束了。他们要么兵败如山倒,要么眼睁睁地看着自己的胳膊生锈。美国的财经评论员似乎很少感到特别震惊。少数眼光独到的人对提前灭亡或推迟几十年灭亡意见不一。


Hulakan
1天前
Regarding the capitulation of Japan in WWII, Japan accepted unconditional surrender on one condition: that the emperor remain.

关于日本在二战中的投降,日本接受无条件投降的条件只有一个:天皇继续留任。


OsujziC
19小时前
Which makes it a conditional surrender.Germany's surrender is what unconditional surrender looks like.

这使它成为有条件的投降,德国的投降才是无条件投降。


NookaNifty
1天前
Russia has two main goals: to prevent Nato from taking Ukraine and to stop the war on Donbas. After Isranbul, where Ukraine and West refused a peace deal, Russia decided to annex the occupied territories. While the main geostrategic goal remains fighting Nato's enlargement, we should not dismiss the importance of protecting Russians in Ukraine for the Russians and Russian leadership

俄罗斯有两个主要目标:阻止北约占领乌克兰和停止顿巴斯战争。在伊斯坦布尔会议后,乌克兰和西方国家拒绝和平协议,俄罗斯决定吞并被占领土。虽然主要的地缘战略目标仍然是对抗北约的扩张,但我们不应忽视保护乌克兰境内的俄罗斯人对俄罗斯人和俄罗斯领导层的重要性。


Bballen
1天前
I agree but we should never forget the two overriding goals which Putin set out from the very beginning: De-militarisation and De-Nazification of Ukraine.

我同意,但我们不应忘记普京从一开始就提出的两个首要目标:乌克兰去军事化和去纳粹化。


NookaNifty
1天前
Those are not overriding. The overriding core goal is to make sure that Ukraine will not be used to pose any kind of threat to Russia and Russians.

这些都不是首要目标,压倒一切的核心目标是确保乌克兰不会被用来对俄罗斯和俄罗斯人构成任何形式的威胁。


Mindmybusy
1天前
Ukraine neutrality is one thing but it is only a part of what needs to be there. The most importantly Ukraine needs democratic living standards without bandera nationalistic movement which as proven it was, it is and always be a root cause for all the problems they have there.

乌克兰保持中立是一回事,但这只是乌克兰需要的一部分。最重要的是,乌克兰需要民主的生活标准,而不是带头的民族主义运动,因为事实证明,民族主义运动过去是、现在是、将来也是乌克兰所有问题的根源。


SkyNet-T
1天前
West creates wars & always has done. West provokes & provokes but always insists they did it for Peace!

西方制造战争,而且总是如此。西方不断挑衅,却始终坚称是为了和平!


CK-joim
1天前(修改过)
I propose that the BRICS should also consider a proposal to divide the US mainland into 4 independent quadrants. How about that?

我建议金砖国家也应考虑将美国大陆划分为4个独立国家的建议。怎么样?


HarrySmith
1天前
Good idea. Also return Alaska to its legal owner Russia and return California, Texas New Mexico and Arizona to their legal owner Mexico.

好主意。同时将阿拉斯加归还给其合法所有者俄罗斯,将加利福尼亚州、德克萨斯州、新墨西哥州和亚利桑那州归还给其合法所有者墨西哥。


Willem
20小时前
break off scotland from the uk and merge england into greater wales, but put the welsh in charge...

将苏格兰从英国分离出去,将英格兰并入大威尔士,但让威尔士人掌权......


IliyaOsnovikov
1天前(修改过)
Dr. Matthew Crosston forgot that those 4 East Ukraine regions are already included into Russian Constitution as the integral parts of the Russian Federation. Thus they cannot be transfered back to Ukraine. Besides, those a historically Russian lands populated mostly by ethnic Russians that nominally become Ukrainian only within Soviet Union.

马修-克罗斯顿博士忘记了,这 4 个东乌克兰地区已经作为俄罗斯联邦的组成部分写入了俄罗斯宪法。因此,不能将它们划回乌克兰。此外,这些地区在历史上是俄罗斯领土,主要由俄罗斯族人居住,只是在苏联境内才名义上成为乌克兰。


TheRussianAngle
1天前
Imagine their dismay, after all those centuries of history, culture, wealth and near unlimited power… it all began to slip away. Bit by bit, here and there… like a photograph receding back in time, reversing its development. In shock they watched as the picture of their status, their preeminence, glory even, and above all, supreme dominance, began to fade. They must have felt they might soon disappear themselves…

想象一下他们的沮丧吧,在拥有了几个世纪的历史、文化、财富和近乎无限的权力之后......这一切都开始悄然离去。一点一点,这里那里......就像一张倒退的照片,逆转着它的发展。他们震惊地看着自己的地位、显赫、荣耀,尤其是至高无上的统治权开始消逝。他们一定觉得自己可能很快就会消失......


just as you had brought down the rival power of the Soviet Union and were glorying in being not just unipolar power in the West, but unipolar power now of the entire globe… that it all began to go horribly wrong. This couldn’t be, right? To have this supremely wondrous moment you had worked so hard toward for fifty plus years suddenly wrenched away from you only a few years after this momentous achievement. This was surely devastating.

就在你们打倒了苏联这个对手,正为自己不仅是西方的单极强国,而且是全球的单极强国而沾沾自喜的时候,一切都开始出大问题了。这不可能,对吧?你辛辛苦苦为之奋斗了五十多年的辉煌时刻 就在你取得这一重大成就的几年后突然离你而去。这无疑是毁灭性的。


Bellhula
1天前
Many previously empires had such thinking .The king's thought themselves invincible and now they are barely remembered, only found in books and the study of history etc.

以前的许多帝国都有这种思想。国王们认为自己是不可战胜的,而现在人们几乎不记得他们了,只能在书本和历史研究中找到他们的身影。
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